Thanks Carol, pricey is the reason we are talking my mom into buying. My brother has recently bought vinyl machine and heat press plus screen printing (not complete yet he has to get a few more things). He hasn't even advertised that he is doing shirts and stuff yet but alredy has our local popwarner business (not happy with whom is doing it now) plus three surrounding pop warners business. Jr high and high school teachers have given him orders for shirts, he is doing my son's cross country team shirts, alot of the coaches for the high school and jr high have inquired on prices. We both figure with embroidery machine all basis' are covered. He has gotten all this business just from making kids their shirts for different things and others seeing them.